Perhaps it would be faster to superascend now, with a legendary, and keep superascending a few more times instead of postponing it until I can super with an insane. Perhaps not. But there is more in life than Idle.

One of the factors that influenced my decision is my upcoming holiday. I won't be doing much Idle or battle until I'm back home.

If I superascend now, with a legendary, I don't know where I'll be with Idle before going away. My next super may or may not happen before that. By not superascending anytime soon, my digging crew can continue full steam ahead without me.

When I get back from my holiday, I can battle a lot again. All in all, I estimate that I'll have my insane sometime in July. That's just three months, maybe a little more, holiday included. I think having another insane is well worth the delay.

Edited 2026-04-06 20:38:28

Today reached 76800 bp. Odd number? Well, it's ¾ of what it takes for the legendary. Or, to put it differently, it's now 25600 bp still to go for the legendary, the same as what it takes to get the epic when starting from scratch. That's manageable, right?

Just food for thought Rob… I was paired in timing roughly with another clan mate at our second super ascend. I waited to build a second insane, while he advanced. Apart from that I’ve solely been working on another ascend from a gameplay perspective.

Took me a couple months to finish, and started working at next ascends. He’s now 2-3 ascends ahead of me, and the benefits he gets have basically meant there’s no realistic way for me to catch back up. Not that it’s a race… but it is proof that there are benefits to ascending. Shortens overall timeframe, and also can regain ts epic, idle arts, and other gameplay arts… so you can build those faster while ascending. Just my perspective

Good thread and I'm considering a Leg $B. I've already got an Ins A$B, along with a Leg AV. Will anyone confirm $B stacks w/A$B?

@Rowddawg: I'm not trying to superascend repeatedly as fast as possible. I'm just playing Idle while I like it, and I know that it's not the fastest way. Few people do that anyway.

An important factor in my decision to make a second insane before my second superascension is my upcoming holiday. If I had superascended when I could, I couldn't say where I would be right now. Not superascending back then means that by now I can go away for quite some time and the digging crew will just keep on digging, at a speed of 2h 31m per common equivalent. And if I'm around often enough to activate my legendary TW when that's cooled down, that means something like 50 days for a legendary.

Together with what I have, that means that I could get superascend with that insane by the end of July, early August. FIne by me.

Since I already got the AP required for superascending a long time ago, I decided to use the time for something else: the post-superascension levels, including all techs. From others I heard that that requires a whole lot of smelting and crafting. Well, I have time to do that, right? If I superascend a number of timess before going for those levels and their tech trees, playing those will still take a lot of time. That's just how it is with techs for which the items or resources can't be bought from markets. So why not play them while I'm not all that fast yet, right?

When I first thought that I would give that a go, I thought I would be able to get a few levels done before superascending. I was wrong
about that. Very wrong.

My first attempt at Regio Coquus was back in March. Woefully underprepared, I aborted after a few hours. But at least I had an idea what it would take to play it.

For weeks, I played and replayed levels, getting AP and unlocking and upgrading advancements. When I had all the ore advancements maxed, I started Regio Coquus again. And this time it went like a breeze! By now I'm wrapping up Medieval Battleground, I'll have the techs real soon. That's a lot further with the levels than I had expected. But that's not all.

With all the AP I got, I maxed almost all advancements that would help with Idle, and I upgraded the Simultaneous Levels advancement to 4. One of those is for digs, with the others I can play up to 3 of the post-superascension levels. That basically means 1 level to do something, occasionally, while in the others the smelters and crafters will be working diligently on what I need for the techs. I might even manage to finish all the levels, including all techs, before superascending.

@Unicorn: I'm not sure if I understand correctly what you mean by stacking up A$B and $B. I think I do, but I may be wrong. For the record, I take it that with $B you mean Cache Boost. I'm used to the abbreviation CB for that.

Anyway, an example from one of the levels I'm currently playing might answer your question.

In Hardened Far Land, I currently have +165% cache armies. The breakdown for that is:

Tech: Tell your workers that it's cash +50%
Advancement +100%
Clan/Ladder Reward +15%

As you can see, it's added, not multiplied. You can see details like this too if you max the Statistics advancement.

If I deploy my insane A$B, its 64% gets added to that, giving +229%. If I then deploy my epic CB, another 6.4% gets added, making +235.4%. It's not much, but I deploy it anyway when I have a slot available for it. An insane CB will be 25.6%, making it +255%. Based on this, there are several other artifacts that I prefer to make insane before CB.

Rob,

Thanks!

"at a speed of 2h 31m per common equivalent. "

I agree and Super Ascended once but would not have done it do to digging times being reverted back. IMHO slowing digs down is not worth it until a couple of Insanes are had. But maybe I'm playing all wrong?

"artifacts that I prefer to make insane before CB. "

In a round about way that's what I'm asking.

From a closed thread I read, "Doubling the efficacy of one good artifact is going to outperform five bad ones."

I have enough fodder to make another Legendary and not sure which way to go as I currently have an Insane Army Cache Boost and Legendary Alloy Value.

A$B/CB

You answered the question and sounds like Army Cache Boost increases the base cache and Cache Boost separately increases the base cache, CB doesn't stack by increasing the added ACB.

Thanks!

Edited 2026-05-20 17:08:38

Rob, that makes sense then. I’ve done the techs for all the latter maps except for the last three, and yeah, they’re daunting if you’re under prepared. I’d definitely recommend doing them completely on the first run. Although the added benefit is extra im’s and other bonuses if you’re low on them.

Good luck sir,

Edited 2026-05-24 21:13:00

Got it!




It's a useful one too. Could have been a lot worse.