But beating Rise of Rome just to get there either takes a few IMs itself or a whole day, no? Otherwise it takes ten SLs to get there.

If you upgrade IM artifact to Insane, you never have to worry about running out of IM powers.

If you have SL advancement at 6 and use a super-powered SL after beating EH you unlock hex, skipping PA entirely. Otherwise I can beat it with a SAC arti and a single IM.

If you're not doing that, what are you saving SL and IM for anyways?

Maybe I'll try it this time.

I haven't even spent the time to get superpowers in my last two supers. Don't need them.

The problem is I'm not confident in getting through hex earth until I'm into phase 4, and once I'm there I can get like 20K AP per day without going to it. So it seemed like a pointless risk each time I thought about it.

There's a reason almost everyone does Hex Earth, even before they are in P4. Sure it takes powers - less as you go on, down to 1 IM min - but it will get you most of the way through P4 and just make the rest of the run a relaxing breeze. Even if you haven't done many SA's, you can use superpowers with time warp with crafting to get the +50 cache tech + hospital bonuses in much less time than it would take to do hardened levels a few times. So a superpower SL to get there is very much worth it. At least until you're like +1000%AP and Hex Earth doesn't actually save much time. After you get an insane A$B or are into P4 you don't need any crafting.

I have never done HEX. I did the first new level and took a pass on the rest. I remember Ivan talking about early in his race to 1500 and when he ran out of skip levels. I am was aware it was a popular path but it was I didn't want to take.

Maybe it was because I don't have a Super Army Camp but the amount of time to get to the sweet levels made it seem wasteful. Once you pet to P4 you can easily repeat RON, Scan, EH, HOT, and HRFRE quickly for large AP with no super powers. I don't remember the amount of time now but it seems like a month getting to P4 and a few days to finish it. It always seem much better to Super Skip and Super IM on HScan to quickly finish a super than to waste your skips do HEX. I guess I really enjoy the end stage of a super verses the early drag.

#Yes1 there is no bad way to play just the most enjoyable for yourself.

Yeah, the rest of the levels are really meant for when you have over 10 SA's minimum and good artifacts. They're also generally done *after* hex earth at the end of P4. Unless you want to use IM powers, save them for when you have a decent artifact IM.

If you haven't, I still suggest you try hex earth once to see if you like it. It's not really like the other extra
levels, lots of AP for not much drudgery. Though some people use plateau assault as a way to get there with 10 P3 SL's - it's the easiest of the extra levels, but generally requires a SAC.

Even if you're P3, it's worth it to use superpowers like a TW to gain the techs needed quickly. Or a SAC + superpower cache. That level has so many powers.

Edited 2026-05-29 00:02:20

I have super-ascended ten more times (now 160).

Total boons:
* +3600 AP at startup (+5)
* +2100% AP from levels
* +30 artifact carryover (+2)
* +10 artifact dig speed (+3)

Artifacts carried over:

Insane (5): A$B, A^B,  CB, MeD, RCB
Insane (5):  TW,  IM,  AV, SAC, MCB
Insane (5):  HB, TMB, BMB,  DB, ACD
Insane (2):  IV, OV^u

MiD (3): legend, rare, uncomm
 HD (2): epic^d, rare
 TD (2): epic^d, uncomm
 MR (2):   epic, uncomm
 MB (1): rare^d, none

Epic (2): {TS, ACD}^f
Rare (1): OV^su
Unco (2): {IT, SC}^f 

^f:fodder, ^u:upgrade
^s:spare, ^d:downgrade

Highlights:

I adjusted my AP strategy, and am now taking much smaller amounts of add.mercs at first so I can get can-skip-levels sooner. This allows me to skip Drakemor, Pelo, and Feldmere at the cost of some additional drafting in the surrounding levels (worth it).

As my turnaround time reduced, I found I wasn't digging up enough fodder to build a legendary every two cycles, so I took three more dig speed boons and started auto-digging during my end-of-cycle time warp. I also took two carryover boons to accommodate the new insanes and new additions to the churn. Perhaps not enough because I just had to sacrifice my backup time warp to make room for other stuff. I'll rebuild it at some point.

I picked item values (already done) and ore values (just started) as my latest insane artifacts. I added market raid to the churn because I figure I'll want one eventually for tech runs on the post-super levels, and no better candidates stood out. I'll likely add quadruple strike to the churn pretty soon as well.

21st SA. +art for 250% AP and 11 addl artis.

300 / 100 / 45 / 44 / 37 / 25 / 38 / 24 / 18 / 19
19 / 18 / 14 / 14 / 17 / 16 / 11 / 10 / 8 / 9
8

Didn't mine for SL so I guess I'm committed to beating PA this run. Also one more damn run without ACB in the beginning where it matters. Looking forward to finally getting that back. Almost enough AP to do hex x3 and the hardeneds a second time to SA - need maybe 2 more AP boosts.

Next leg is hopefully MD or CB. And finally some fodder for taking ACB to insane.

Ins A$B leg AV SAC IM TW ACB (upgrading again) and epic HB

2026/06/03 TOZ57 2nd SA (Artifact) at 11:10 UTC

Super ascended again last night my dudes. 40 times total now. +825% AP and 9 artifacts IACB ISAC IA$B I$B ITW IAV IIM IDB and LHB. 7 more Sascs and I will have +1000% AP then think I will start going for 100 AP bonuses. What do you guys think?

Aaand another one. Potentially my fastest yet. . 41 times total now. +850% AP and 9 artifacts IACB ISAC IA$B I$B ITW IAV IIM IDB and LHB. 6 more Sascs and I will have +1000% AP then think I will start going for +100 AP bonuses.

SA 30
15x AP,
+15 slots

22nd SA. +ap for 275% AP and 11 addl artis.

300 / 100 / 45 / 44 / 37 / 25 / 38 / 24 / 18 / 19
19 / 18 / 14 / 14 / 17 / 16 / 11 / 10 / 8 / 9
8 / 10

CW bonuses expiring and A^B upgrading slowed me down especially in the middle. But now the early levels should be quick! Time to start finding out if I can cut any hospitals. PA doable with my setup with 1.48IM, and I can do EH only once if I do hex thrice and the hardened levels twice (and a little). I need to dig a CB to get much faster than this methinks, and learn to cache surf early levels better.

Ins A$B leg AV SAC IM TW ACB and epic HB MD TS SAC

2nd SA. I somehow managed to get my Legendary kicked off just as I finished LVL4. On first SA I kept IACB, IACB, ISAC. I suffered from no money. As I await my Bonus Money Boost to upgrade to Legendary, I am in the same boat. As you can tell, I went with LBMB. After first SA, I did not get a BMB or TMB until AFTER ascending and hitting Scandinavia. (Well over 100 digs). I contemplated AV, but that doesn't help you at the beginning of the game when you want to upgrade Camps quickly, especially to maximize SAC and increase caches as well. (I also seemed to run out of mercs when playing an Epic AV). Anyway, I expect this round to go faster since I'll have a money boost way much sooner. On a side note, I did not upgrade any resources except for Mine Discount, I'm finishing maps before I can smelt/craft to complete the tree, sometimes only 25% (I get held up on when the item is not in the market.) BTW, ISAC gets army caches boosted to over double when activated. I've learned to play caches accordingly. War On!

El Hombre, a Leg AV definitely helps at the beginning because resource caches often have alloys - especially with a RCB. Just not as much help later with the market strategy. Doing the later levels without a leg AV is a big drag. But having an IA$B would make up for that a little.

I only had Legendary artifacts until my 20th SA or so, then got the IA$B as my first. You must have spent a good amount of time digging...

Edited 2026-06-11 00:36:24

#ChillHouzVanHoutn War.app Member
Level 63

7 more Sascs and I will have +1000% AP then think I will start going for 100 AP bonuses. What do you guys think?

Not exactly sure on the numbers but starting with Joint Strike and 100% Increased Army Camp Production are nice. The Additional Merc early I guess help but I don't feel them as much.

Everyone progress seem to at some point switch to +100 AP and switch back to +.25%. I guess it more the question is it the start of the game slowing me down or the end of the game costing me the most time.

One more soupy soup for ChillHouz. 42 times total now. +875% AP and 9 artifacts IACB ISAC IA$B I$B ITW IAV IIM IDB and LHB. 5 more Sascs and I will have +1000% AP then I will start going for +100 AP bonuses. And yes Mindoro I am very looking forward to doing Huery’s castle with joint strike I can’t wait

23rd SA. +art for 275% AP and 12 addl artis.

300 / 100 / 45 / 44 / 37 / 25 / 38 / 24 / 18 / 19
19 / 18 / 14 / 14 / 17 / 16 / 11 / 10 / 8 / 9
8 / 10 / 9

In maybe 1 or 2 more ap increases I can skip EH and never ascend at all, just super. Wild.

No clue what my next leg artifacts will be - let's see what turns up.

Ins A$B leg AV SAC IM TW ACB MD and epic HB

I have super-ascended ten more times (now 170).

Total boons:
* +4600 AP at startup (+10)
* +2100% AP from levels
* +30 artifact carryover
* +10 artifact dig speed

Artifacts carried over:

Insane (5): A$B, A^B,  CB, MeD, RCB
Insane (5):  TW,  IM,  AV, SAC, MCB
Insane (5):  HB, TMB, BMB,  DB, ACD
Insane (3):  IV,  OV, HD^u

MiD (3): legend, rare, uncomm
 MB (1): epic^u, none
 MR (2):   epic, rare^u
 TD (2): rare^d, uncomm

Epic (1): HD^s
Unco (2): {SC,TW}^?
Comm (1): IT^?

^f:fodder, ^u:upgrade
^s:spare, ^d:downgrade

Highlights:
* now getting CSL2 a bit sooner than before
* replaced FE and K-PX runs with Pelo War
* this means fewer mercs on Sengoku and HFL
* compensating with L3 hospitals on Sengoku
* picked Hospital Discount as my latest insane

Current Path:
* Tutorial, Huruey, WotW, UL, HUL,
* Pelo, Sengoku, HFL, HOT, 1066,
* H.Scand, China, PA, Hex, HCCC